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solar now cheaper than nuclear? A near fantasy .pdf from North Carolina Waste Awareness and Reduction Network [NC WARN, 18 pages] gives ‘imaginative’ charts that appear to show that solar electricity is now cheaper than electricity from new nuclear power plants. This 66-page .pdf from M.I.T. is presented correctly. It is much better than the usual sloppy, drifting claims in most of this stuff, such as that from NC WARN.
Note the real inflation relative to the constant false/fake numbers presented by governments. ‘Overnight costs’ means costs without interest costs accrued by the time taken between the start of construction to the start of. production
So much for daft claims from NC WARN [p.8] about more than 10 years to build a nuclear plant. One factor in the apparent good value of solar energy is government subsidies:
The idea, suggested by NC WARN, that nuclear power jumps from less than 10 ¢ to more than 25 ¢ per kw looks extremely dodgy to me.
See this article at theenergycollective.com, particularly the comment by Charles Barton below it.
That accords fully with my own views/assessments.
It’s all very complicated. 2,400 large wind turbines are intended to replace a ‘large’ nuclear power plant amid hand waving about the efficiency of wind. These 2,400 units need to be serviced and an intelligent grid is required to even out power supplies. And so on. Lurking in the background, the considerable attraction of going off-grid when faced with generators’ retail prices and some juicy subsidies. But will off-grid be cheaper in overall costs and maintenance? (I include better house building energy standards in off-grid.) Then there’s the huge filthy fossil fuel subsidies in a market that is so distorted it is hard to make clear judgements. Add to this that the prices of one supplier are strongly effected by competitive prices elsewhere in that market. Add to that the grid is managed in terms of removing the most expensive supplier as demand falls. Further, just about everything tends to forecast ever increasing electricity usage (the NC WARN link is unusual in that it suggest the reverse!). Then there is Jevons’ ‘paradox’. As I say, this is damned complicated ☺ Provoked by comments from DVH. related material
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a real transition petrol/electric car is coming
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review of Why We Hate the Oil Companies: Straight Talk by John Hofmeister This book is a very useful analysis of the politics of the oil industry, and its interactions with politicians and the public. As the writer has been a high-level worker in Big Oil [president of Shell Oil Company, 2005-2008], he is widely informed but remains a determined team player for the industry. This is a helpful background book for understanding the filthy fossil fuel industry and its dance of death with the planet and six billion self-interested humans. These are people addicted to the largesse and advantages of oil. However, they would really rather not have the bother of clearing up the mess, let alone pay more for their toys and a modern civilisation. “The call for American energy independence was first made more than 35 years ago. At that time, we imported about one-third of our oil from other nations. After three and a half decades of repeated commitments by presidents, presidential candidates, and countless elected and appointed officials of both major parties at federal and state levels, after dozens of energy bills over the intervening years, through recessions and periods of heady economic growth and prosperity, by 2008 we imported two-thirds of our oil from other nations. Our reliance on foreign oil increased, not decreased. How's that for performance?” [p.26] Hofmeister is correctly scathing of the dreadful problems posed by the politicking in Washington. He talks of political time with its short-sighted dogmatism and ever-present electioneering, energy time where immensely complex decisions and long-term planning is required, and the problem of the constant conflict of these two pressures.
The book is very interesting as a treatise on the politics of energy, in particular the oil industry. It is far less relevant on the future and technolgy of energy. Hofmeister doesn’t consider distributed systems with any attention, being rather keen on large corporations and big government - and my god, he can be boring! The book just stretches to a four GoldenYak award . Contents - chapter titles
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another step towards the electric car
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gulf of mexico crude spill set to be yet another major disaster - now 200,000 gallon-a-day leak How come this is “all BP’s fault”? People buy the oil, people waste the oil, people demand the oil, people will sell their grandmothers for oil. Governments make a fortune in oil taxes. The politicians seek ‘donations’ from the industry. The BP rig was contracted out to a rig operation company. Of course, suing yourself or the government is not so profitable as making BP the patsy. Two years ago, it would have been all George Bush’s fault. The immaturity of public debate and politics is a public embarrassment. The ultimate responsibility is government regulation. The highly regulated nuclear industry has an incredibly safe record. [book review: The nuclear energy option by Bernard L. Cohen]
Thank the lord it wasn’t a bucket dropped in a clean safe nuclear power station, or you would never hear the last of it!
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